Passing game out of the Flexbone

[olinecoach61]

I have a couple of follow-ups...
(1) Is the backside of the protection effected by the "gap" call or do they stick with their BOB protection?

(2) If the LB doesn't show the blitz but rushes post-snap, then the FB has to get there, right?

Answers:
1. The backside blocks away, so if there were a 3 and 7 tech, the bsg would pick up the DT, the bst would pick up the DE and the uncovered lineman, in this case the center is swinging looking for the ISLB to OSLB. He's got to be on his horse if the OSLB is coming.

2. Correct, if they don't show we stay with our rules.

[tedseay]

admin said:

I have been thinking of keeping them but still very leary of adding too much offense on top of the option game.

Reb: That is a very useful fear to have. Given the power of the option (and the amount of practice time it demands), it only makes sense to limit your passing game to a few versatile pass route packages that add a useful dimension to your attack without stealing too much time and energy from your core offense...

[tedseay]

...and just to complicate things, have a look at this thread on Huey's board, especially my post on gunslinger's Cross package:

coachhuey.proboards42.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pass&thread=1144456068&page=1

[coachveer]

The first question we ask in our passing game is can our OL block it. That is one of the reasons we have yet to put the mesh in. We have to be really careful in our drop back passing game.

If we need to run longer routes we do it our of 7,8 or even 9 man protection off of PAP. If we want to get 4 in the route then we run waggle/boot in order to get the QB out of the pocket. When we did go with a 6 man bob protection most of the time we worked out of Gun. There are a few exceptions but we try to stick with those basic concepts.

[Rebel Yell]

protection is a major concern. I think that the semi-roll out in the R&S system will help us in that regard.

[coachveer]

Hey Rebel,
Our only problem with the semi-roll is when you can't get the QB outside the DE/OLB. Once the QB has to stop short and pull-up bad things happen for us. If you need to keep the playside slot home to seal the DE the you either lose a plsd route or work from a tripps formation.

[tedseay]

coachveer said:

Hey Rebel,
Our only problem with the semi-roll is when you can't get the QB outside the DE/OLB.

coachveer: One nice alternative to the semi-roll is the 3-Step Boot or Dash pass -- see this thread on Huey's board:

coachhuey.proboards42.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=pass&thread=1168697797&page=1

[tedseay]

RebelYell and coaches: As you can probably see, I'm trying to post information on all flexbone-related passing concepts that I find useful on this one thread, so you will have a quick reference place to look for flexbone passing ideas...

[coachveer]

Hey Ted,
Thanks for the link great info.

[burtledog]

OK. Hope your vacation was great Ted. How is Vienna in January? All the same questions about your job and the world situation!
I had seen this, but being a poor amature I had not pursued this. So it is literally a two part play? Check 3 step routes and then bootleg and look for those routes and be in shape to run as on a normal bootleg/waggle. Gee, my first mentor is kinda' sharp. (My first football coaching book was Coaching Football's Explosive Multi-Bone Offense). Does anyone know if DeMeo has anything on paper (articles or books) about the concept?
Greg

[tedseay]

burtledog said:

Does anyone know if DeMeo has anything on paper (articles or books) about the concept?
Greg

Greg: Is there anything DeMeo DOESN'T have on paper?

;D ;D

[midlineqb]

Here is some of what we did in the passing game from the flexbone.

www.savefile.com/files/444570

[tedseay]

midlineqb said:

Here is some of what we did in the passing game from the flexbone.

www.savefile.com/files/444570

Coach: GREAT stuff! You've touched on the uncovered game (in particular) as well as anything I've seen!

[midlineqb]

Thanks, Coach Seay, that means a lot coming from you.

[tedseay]

Reb: Is it possible to "sticky" this thread to keep it visible for new viewers? I think it's a good collection of flexbone passing ideas, and should be retained for that reason...